|~_~| aimbot - hack i guess
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So yesterday I played around 3 AM against |~_~| in a 1v1. At the beginning everything was normal
After that he started using M4, Uzi and a sniper (not 100% sure which one)
and his aim suddenly changed like a noob lolFrom that point he was hitting very fast headshots with almost no misses.
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Keep in mind that you have around 20 ping while he has about 200. Your hitbox matches your visible skin, but his hitbox appears far behind his actual skin. This makes it much harder for you to hit him, while it is easier for him to hit you.
Your chance of landing a headshot is around 80 percent, or 40 percent if he has armor. His chance is also 80/40 percent as long as his ping does not go above 199. If it goes slightly higher, his chance becomes 66.7/33.35 percent. Even with ping above 300 he still would have 35/17.5 percent chance to land a headshot. Ping over 400 has 0% chance.
During these 15 years I asked asturel many times to change these chances or to modify the headshot system entirely, but he always refused. About ten years ago, when we disabled headshots for a few days, everyone came to IRC to complain. So the meta here is basically to have around 190 ping, because you still keep the 80/40 chance while your hitbox becomes completely broken.
In fact, I noticed that lag related to ping becomes a real problem around 60 ms. That is the point where, if you shoot at your opponent’s head (center) while he is running sideways, you will not hit his actual hitbox. The center of your sawed off crosshair needs to be at the back of his skull. At 100 ping, the crosshair has to be fully behind his head, and at 200 ping it needs to be around one and a half meters behind him.
Here is an old video demonstrating it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y02WozvXpJo
The guy in the video had around 300 to 305 ms.Because of these lag issues, fighting high ping players is completely unfair and unbalanced. They still manage to complain that their chance drops to 66.7/33.35 above 200 ping, while they are the ones with the advantage. They even claim that low ping players have the upper hand, when the reality is the complete opposite. They only need to aim directly at the visible head of our skin, while we have to estimate a different distance for every single shot.
I would also believe this looks like aimbotting. The account was banned, but we had to unban it because asturel wants us to only ban one account. He expects us to catch cheaters on all of their accounts.
When you suspect aimbotting there is nothing you or we can really do. Videos like this do not help because we cannot see where the shots actually went, and more importantly we cannot see his perspective. Even if we spectated him he would not use the cheat because he would know he is being watched. And even if he did use it, it would not change much because in spectator mode you cannot see where he aims. The only thing you might barely notice is no recoil or no spread, and that is only visible with UZI or TEC9 either.
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@Shades Brother, you're recording from when I started playing differently, why don't you show the earlier part? When did the war start with just saweoff? You kill me with a single bullet; I'd only get close and you'd kill me, you didn't even give me a chance to shoot twice. You're the one who seems like a hack after you started recording; you couldn't hit anything... I've been playing strategy games for years and I noticed that you won all the close-quarters encounters, and since we were in a war, I opted to play at a distance and saw that I had an advantage there, and I only used it against you.
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@Shades You're upset because your account was banned, and it was me who reported it for statins.
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@DEAD_GHOST brother im not shades im Abu old account got stolen so i had this
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@DEAD_GHOST Ty
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@Derex Sir, I'm not defending anyone, we think using logic, he's been caught using aimbot, it's natural that people think he's still using it, and the strange thing is that he used 2 accounts when using the cheat, but only one of his accounts was banned, so what I'm responding to is your statement above, so what kind of proof do you want, you know if Gerson didn't intervene to edit his war video on YouTube, maybe he wouldn't have been caught until now, if his logic is still like that, in the end everyone will cheat too, because they feel cheated
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@Derex if you say so, i also have 170-190 ping, but i never find it that easy to kill people with m4, i also fight low ping like people from europe, in this video it's really magical even though the owner just appeared and died immediately
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@HomeMade Stop being crazy trash, you just want me banned, another account to make fun of me in the WhatsApp group. Stop being an idiot, you should be grateful you haven't been banned for stats. It's better if you keep quiet.
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If your opponent has high ping, something like 200 to 250 or even above 300, then of course it becomes much harder for you to kill him, especially since your ping is also high. However, you also become harder to be killed, so the fight is more balanced in that situation. My comparison was specifically about low ping players versus high ping players. High ping versus high ping is still bad, but at least it is more balanced because both of you hard to kill for each other.
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asturel made the decision that we only ban the account that was actually used for cheating. I do not see any other video where he is cheating on his other accounts. Personally I agree with chain banning, and I also believe that if someone uses hacks they will use them on all of their accounts, but I am not the one who makes the rules. We simply have to follow what asturel decides.
This was one of the reasons why I left about one and a half years ago. If you wonder why I am here now, it is only temporary. I spent hours tracking cheaters (anass) When I finally caught him, I banned all of his accounts but asturel said only one account. He expects us to catch him on every single one of them. Later he bought unban for his ip and serial and he did it multiple times since then as well whenever he gets banned or jailed.
The only reason we caught this guy is because he recorded himself while using the cheat. There is no other way to catch this type of hack.
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@Derex OK sir, that means if someone who uses a hack doesn't record while he's fighting, that means there's no way to find out, you could say anyone can use it, because if he doesn't record he won't be caught
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@HomeMade So tell me, how can you actually prove that someone is using aimbot or no recoil if we cannot see their point of view and we have no idea where they are aiming? We can barely see the bullets either. So how exactly would you prove it?
This is not Counter Strike where you have a replay system. Just because you fought him and it looked extremely suspicious, and you feel convinced that you are right, it still does not mean you have undeniable proof.In the past I also had a very strong suspicion about someone, but I never had any solid proof. For example, once someone killed me with a sawn off at the dm98 startpoint with a single shot from around fifty meters, even though the Patriot was in front of me and I was completely behind cover. He had just stepped out from behind the buildings there, and the whole thing happened in a fraction of a second. I later jailed that player for something else. Since then people keep saying that you cannot fight me because I will give ban or jail. The truth is that everyone knows exactly how impossible it is to prove cheating, so it is not an exaggeration to say that around 95% of players use some kind of cheat.
