@Doughnut account was sold not hacked but nice try
Posts made by Derex
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RE: Farewell
@LuisNani i think we all had enough frm you. I told you that your "anticheats" are shit. Just you know, there is a so called anti aimbot in the resource you linked from github. Do u know what it does? If you hit someone's head 5 times in 3 second then you get banned. So imagine how much people would be banned in M4/Uzi fights. Not to mention that we have instant death on hs so you proably won't reach 5 hs, your enemy will die after the first or second
edit* We checked the full resource (XoopAC) with asturel ...
We laughed so hard on how shit thing this is. It gives exactly nothing to server owners. For example anti-vpn script, they wrote it in 15-20 lines, whereas mine at least 150 lines of code with all other useful stuff. (and still incomplete)
Their anti-aimbot is also 15-20 lines long, it works so badly. If you hit someone 5 times in 3 seconds they assume you use aimbot. Doesn't even check for weapons. With M4 or Uzi you can certainly hit the player's head even more than 5 times, if you are so unlucky to not to get the hs chance.
I'm trying with something which could be useful to detect aimbotting, already over 500 lines of code...
All other aspect of this resource is a scam. The developers just wanted to put their name on the servers who use them, but these are so called anti* scripts totally useless, does not stop you from cheating or doing any other harm on the server. Successful anticheat scripts can not be just downloaded from free.Windowed/fullscreen mode check - thats doesn't help as well since it cant be done without custom client.
Sadly I don't know when you or Mateus gives these ideas but seems like none of you know shit about scripting and think that what they give and what they have in minds is good.
Stop acting like you do something good. After you attacked the server do you think that you have any words? You can act nicely? I already told asturel who you are. He obviuosly doesn't know who you are and listened to you. GTO and even MTA community doesn't need people like you anymore. I gave all needed information to Dutchman who'll investigate on who else did attack GTO because we know you weren't alone. There is at least that latest-news guy who started this whole thing & Castle guy as well. We know you are at least three and you all three will get global banned.
I dont give a shit on how much u hate me (u obviuosly will act nice towards asturel, will lick his dick for unban but he won't. He hates you more than you think) After all ask yourself why are there still people who never got any jail or ban? Because they never did anything wrong to get these. Not my fault that you are a piece of crap who 0-24 share his account with his 'friends' who then betrays you. Not my fault that you can't win against me without using bugs, while you know that I'm no more good in fights. Not my fault if someone records you using a bug and u get jailed. Don't blame me on something I never did, report others and they get punished. Do you think I treat someone differently? You all thought i won't gonna ban anas for example. Check his accounts and talk after that.
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RE: UNFAIL
@Castilo @a-k-a_alv I see you create more account just to be appear more than one person
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RE: Farewell
@21-0 Can you try to understand what did I say? I could only unban insults where ONLY MY NAME was written as an insult reason.
for example: fuck derex.
If asturel's name, or simply admin was written I couldn't. Asturel don't want to give unban to these...Chargeback means that you basically stole money from asturel. Again, I don't get any money from VIPs.
If you buy a VIP tag for 1.000 huf for example, but then chargebacks it, asturel loses the 1.000 HUF + 5.000 HUF as chargeback fee. He wouldn't give a shit about that 1.000 HUF, but the 5.000 HUF chargeback fee is withdrawn from him and its basically a stealing. Thats why chargebacks will never get unbanned, unless you pay all your chargeback fee. If you chargebacked like 10 vips, thats 50k HUF. You can only pay that directly, so you can't buy another VIP.@LuisNani I read the first two words only. If you don't give the respect to at least read the section which was dedicated to only you, then why would I read yours.
@Mateus
Some players got unbanned only because their evidences was never a 100% true evidence. Even if we did an accuracy + efficiency script and ban those who have 90% + accuracy, people would still come to cry.
You as player will always say that you didn't use anything, but in the other hand all of you out of nowhere became insane gods, you guys never miss any bullet, and kill people in 0.1 seconds. These things were never possible on gta, but since you all came with shitting on my skills, and like only 1 other person stood with me defending the ban, I couldn't do anything but unban.
We know that all of you (only some exceptions) use the cheat & act nice. I'm not paranoid, these are the facts.@Castilo whatever you say, doesn't matter how much you cry, doesn't matter how much you hate, I don't care. If you wrote it down that you use a cheat thats enough reason to get banned. In the context there were no joking at all, you have answered nico's question whether you use cheat or not. You even tried to use another cheat but got kicked by. I don't need to paste 500 pages of gangchat just to prove that you were truly talking to each other about it. I only pasted the relevant part of the conversation where a "yes I use it" sentence comes out of your mouth. I don't need you to catch while cheating. IF you think thats only my decision ask asturel, he will even ban you from here for being annoying or ban your other accounts.
And yeah you are responsible for your account no matter who use it
Do you think that asturel won't do the same? What do you think? WHO CREATED THE RULES? When I wasn't an admin on gto, he banned everyone permanently for the slighlest insult or bugabuse, with all accounts + serial. What do you think why could I unban now insulters who only insulted me? hm? Why couldn't I unban the other insulters? If you think I'm too strict thats only because you had no experience with him.
I was good at being a figure who you can blame and hate for everything
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RE: Farewell
@Mateus my only problem was back then that you couldn't understand that we face a cheat problem which cannot be detected. I know that we could make a lot of anticheat scripts based on lua. For e.g. anti teleport, anti grenade kills, possibly anti login screen cheats, even maybe an anti-norecoil (i still need some tests to see if that works).
But for aimbot, there is nothing we can check. We did read all functions, events what MTA provides and there is nothing which would detect if someone uses aimbot. You seemed like that you didn't wanna understand this and kept saying that "player behaviour" thingy. To check what they do, what they act etc.
The thing is there is no such thing like player behaviour when it comes to aimbot. It looks exactly the same as a normal shoot.
There is a workaround for accuracy + efficiency + hits(hitbox) calculations. If someone reaches like 70-80-85% and beyond % accuracy, then thats a high chance of someone aimbotting.
But players can reduce these numbers by shooting a wall...When to calculate these? 0-24 or only while spectating? The second one looks promising but it would need huge affort.
I don't know if it was you or someone else who sent asturel (who then sent it to me) an anticheat resource on github. (XoopAc) this does not have anti aimbot as well so it doesn't help out GTO.
All other cheats are meaningless, only aimbot + norecoil gives you true advantage here, so even though this resource might have some good things in it, still not really necessary to add in GTO.Windowed mode/fullscreen mode - only custom client would let us to do that, but not every cheat works the same way..
Check processlist - only with customclient & this cheat hides itself.
LuisNani is the main protagonist turk, he's not alone. I just passed a lot of information about his friends to Dutchman, they will get global banned too. He thinks that he can spoof his serial but Dutchman promised me that they have new ways soon and the global ban on him will stay. What he did with GTO was totally unacceptable in the whole MTA community.
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RE: Farewell
@LuisNani
Good that you wrote these so I can pass them to Dutchman101 and he will re-think on what punishment you should get.
I never ever supported anyone in insulting others. It would have been so much work to give mute to everyone who insult the other. After all its gta and you should have moved on if someone insults you.
If someone created an insulter nick towards you, or your country, or your culture we always banned those. Just report it. How do you except me or asturel to ban someone if we didn't get any report?
If someone makes fun of deaths or made serious insults thats also a punishable thing, and belive me, I never got any report of him saying those. You can search how many insulter nick there are, I know it better because 2 days ago I unbanned a lot of people who were insulting me, and I manually checked every (1050) account ban. Show me the post where you reported him, and show where I did support him. If thats the case I'm sorry, maybe I didn't pay enough attention, didn't even checked your pic (if you gave), but we are in a situation, where you accuse me of something, I know I never did, and you don't show any evidence of it.
Whatever you think, there was no excuse on doing what you did.I never banned anyone just because they killed me, thats another lie. If you got recorded by doing a bug -- thats only on you that you use bugs everytime in fights and people report you. If you think about the Asuna incident where your account got banned yes, thats a case where I thought that you use a bug or cheat or something. It turned out that there is a gto bug which neglects all incoming damage if there is a little wall between you and the other.
Did I unban the account after we tested it? YES. Then why you come up with this? What do you except from me what will I do? I didn't know about that wallbug, I myself just saw someone who didn't take any damage. Isn't that then a good thing if I make a video & ban the guy? I think I did the right thing. Later we tested with others and your account got unbanned.
Same thing happened to some PH guy, got banned for the same wall bug, and they got unbanned....
You can't say that I didn't go into details & I didn't test it with others. Everyone who got banned for that got eventually unbanned when I figured out the bug. Since then nobody got a ban. Why you try to make me someone I am not?
When I was leveling my second account, I didn't even quit before dies, I let myself to be killed and lost a lot of xp. Unlike all of you, I don't even care about how my stats looks so there is basically no reason for me to ban anyone when he kills me. You again just shout out something in the universe, what you think it could cast a bad light on me.
I'm not a racist guy - thats another lie you spreading. I have real-life turkish and arab mates I know that not everyone of your country is like you. We had zero other option on how could we stop the cheaters, it was only the country ban + implementing a vpn check.
Since all of you shared every account, we couldn't make an exception. There is a colombian guy who alone lives in another town, and all the other colombian players live in another. In that case it was easier to make an IP exception. We did try to somehow investigate on who you are, what accounts do you have, and somehow let other turkish people to play, but we couldn't. All account has multiple serials, and every serial has multiple accounts. The IPs were different too. E-mails too. We had nothing else. Just remember, when I finally catched you when you were trying to add yourself as admin, Turkey got the ban after a day, when we had no other option. How would you explain to other turkish people, why are they banned because of your own stupidity? But anyway I know you are not alone. You had some friends in help, there was days when 3 or 4 cheaters were in game at the same time.@nico1 would you like me to send a pic on how many times I sent asturel your request, just yesterday & today? I can't do anything if he don't open the messenger.
@a-k-a_alv
I know that you won't believe for me, but I never ever received a single dollar for being admin here. Not even money ingame. All I have is from dms. All donation goes to asturel, not to me. I always had argue with him if someone could buy unbans. I myself think thats not a good thing, it just increases the player's hate towards us. Especially this case where I banned someone who was 100% using the cheats, then he just buys an unban. Asturel pays the server from his own money, and if there is someone who willing to pay for an unban he will say yes. Its that simple.Salope and skopsko are not the same, they are two different players. Everyone has the ability to collect payday. What they do is unharmful to the server. I myself think that making a script which disconnect you if someone is nearby is some sort of advantage, some sort of cheat, but asturel gave him personal permission to do it, since it is 100% unharmful to others. You can create your own script which does the same. Why would we ban people just because they afk and collect payday, which literally a thing on the server? Its like you say, I need to ban the people who only picks up cbs. Nonsense...
I have no permission to access gto scrips, I told you countless times It is hard for me to fix a gto bug when I don't even know whats going in the code. The only thing I could do is to report it to asturel, what I already did along with others. He doesn't have the time for it, + he now has a bad arm as well, + it won't really make him to do anything when people chargebacks & insults & cheats. If a bug occurs only on gto, nobody will get punishment. If a bug occurs on all server (for e.g. crouchbug) thats a bug which MTA should fix. If you still abuse those then what do you except from me, what to do?
@skopsko
Earlier in september there was a case, when you killed me ( I didn't ban you, look that @LuisNani )
But I thought I repay it. I went to dm95 to kill you and something happened. I saw you disappear from the hunter, so I thought the dm started. After like 20 seconds I saw that the dm didn't run. Thats why I accused you of using a cheat, after all you'd know how to.
You then came to IRC, and passed me your logs, I checked the server logs too and you were right. Nothing happened. My client somehow didn't register the kill, but in the logs I saw that you died, everything was fine.I told this again, because some player thinks that you have exceptions here.
Well the script is an exception, but since its unharmful, its okay.
I always wanted others to show me what they use, what bug they abuse so at least I know what it is, and nobody would receive a false ban (especially if the problem is in the gto scripts).
Asuna and others were always unfriendly, hated me for their own stupidiy. Not my fault that they shared their pw, and some of his 'friends' banned his account.
When we gave ban for bugabusing (what @mxxn says could be good thing) they loggined with the shared accounts and created the video where they abuse the bug in order to get ban.
There was a time when we didn't give ban for insults, yet people searched another ways to get banned. Thats not my or asturel's fault that the player community is this bad.@LuisNani
Just FYI, Im still talking to asturel, he passed me your words from IRC. He still don't wanna draw out my admin rights, he wants me to come back.
You can write anything about me on IRC, I don't care he won't believe for you. He showed me what othes said about me and we talked about them. You guys think like we don't know each others for over 15 years...At first I thought Mateus guy comes again with zero scripting knowledge. We know what anticheat we can write from our own, but for anti aimbot, and anti recoil there is baically nothing. We could fix the login screen cheating, but since I can't access the codebase I can't do anything. For asturel to fix it, it would require him to write tons of code which he obviuosly don't have time for. About the grenade kills, YES I know there is a good anticheat, but for me to write it I would need GTO codebase in order to work...
When you connect to the server and cheat on loginscreen thats a too direct way of cheating, you get your ban and we move on. Its not a cheat that we should work hours to fix a thing if you can finally get a global ban...
About the aimbot and norecoil users: Mateus couldn't understand that THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS PLAYER BEHAVIOUR which would tell us whether they use aimbot, anti recoil or not. We can like make a script which calculates efficiency + accuracy + hits and hitbox checks, so if someone like has 70-80% and more accuracy thats a suspicious thing, a good sign of someone using a cheat. What would happen if we write it? First, player would shoot the ground and wall to decrease the points. Secondly I would need to spectate for hours if for e.g. we only calculate these while spectating... I even asked other server owners on what they use and nobody had better idea. I would loved if your ideas could work here, but since you have zero scripting knowledge, you think that I just hate you or something so thats why I don't listen to you. The fact is that none of your ideas would work here, please I ask you again. Try to understad this. Servers are different, DayZ server uses a custom client for example for such things, we sadly can't afford to have a custom client. We couldn't maintain it. Also having a custom client does not necessary means that we have full power, and we can catch anything... It would just enabled us to use OS functions to retrieve for e.g. processes you use, but this cheat hides itself..... OS functions itself doesn't have that super power what you think. We could buy an anticheat service but thats also not affordable ....
Today I guess you were the one who said to asturel that there is a way of detecting them.
(11:17:30) (azure) This is the method they use on other servers like Dayz. Only players with windowed mode 'Standard' are accepted into the game, so the cheats of those who use the cheat program will not work.
(11:17:43) (azure) That's all I have to say to you. Again, I am very sorry for what happened on your server. (Apologies do not change anything, but I wanted to help you.)
(11:19:29) (azure) Again, I had no problem with you. Derex was discriminatory and that's why players didn't like him (including me). Now that he's gone I have no problem with you and I can help you. Other servers also use the method I mentioned because there is no other way to prevent cheating at the kernel level.Neverthless if it was you or Mateus guy, I tell you one thing. If you don't have the scripting knowledge, if you don't know how MTA client works, then please don't come up with ideas which will never work. I was 'discriminative' ( I don't think that you used the right word btw.) because from the start you said these anticheat things like they would work the same on GTO. I tell you one simple thing: There is currently no func or event in MTA which would let us to know on whether you use fullscreen mode or not. I did make a lot of investiage on how could we catch the cheaters, you just think I do nothing. You just think I don't play attention on other people's opinion. With a custom client there is a possibility yes - but again we couldn't afford to have a custom client.
Not to mention that this fullscreen/windowed mode does not apply to all cheats. There are cheats which works in every mode, etc. Even if you test if you can use the cheat in windowed/fullscreen mode or not, we can't check that. Its that simple. I explained a lot to you when you wrote your ideas why they wouldn't work here. You didn't understand a single word. Can't be helped.You also passed an idea of tracing certain keypresses, I did test it, I wrote the code, but asturel didn't added it to the game. It wouldn't be a 100% evidence anyway. Please stop thinking that I did zero investigation about what we could do.
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RE: Farewell
@DuskyWe truly talked about your unban (also other's) but watch out for the context. We were in a context where I said AFTER the cheat is detected, you can get unbanned, not now. I wouldn't care if the cheat was finally detected but since you just bought the unban while you know you can still use it as you wish thats unrespectable and this pushed me to make this decision. Even if you say that you won't use it, others won't believe for you as well. I know that in lot of fights you used it, even though you say no. Why would I spectate for hours, day, weeks someone (e.g. you) if they can just buy unban? That was the question I answered with this decision.
I have zero intent on blaming anything on asturel, he does these things in order to keep the server up. However I think its unfair to others that you can play, you can kill them with cheats etc, since you could just buy another unban if someone bans you.There are a bunch of people here who got reported, just check the last topics. Yet their proofs will never be 100% unassailable, whatever the case opener player thinks. We had only three people whose evidence was crystal clear, and 100% true. Yours, Nico and Mypro. Thats why only you and they are banned now, everyone else got unbanned. Now you got out of this cage.
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RE: Farewell
@Dusky it was literally your case which made me this decision. If someone just have the money to get unbanned thats unrespectful to my work.
I can spectate and do my job for hours for literally nothing. Don't act like we are friends. I again was a fool to believe in you. I know that you secretly use the cheat since you know you could just buy another unban. There is no admin currently who could catch you anyway. Ask Anis btw, he told me everything about you earlier.@LuisNani
It was a nice try that you pushed me against Dutchman101, nice one.
You made me think that he owns the copy server, that he helps you and the others with the spoofers & cheats.Just FYI, Dutchman only adds people who he likes, and we started to talk. I made a false accusation about him & blocked him. He did so much work to investigate on who I am and told some info about you.
He knows exactly on what servers are you playing, he knows the exact location of where you live, your real serial etc.
He already gave a warn ban for stop using the spoofer. You didn't stop it, now enjoy your permanent global ban.
Since 2023, there is exactly no way of removing a global ban.He also started the work against the cheat as well, but AC team lacks of manpower and who knows when they finish.
@a.k.a_alv
Whats up MyPRO? Don't have enough money to buy unban? -
Farewell
Dear Players!
I come to tell you that from today I'm no longer an admin. This also means that I'm leaving the server since this was the only thing what kept me here for this long. I also had some good memories with GTO like everyone of you, but these good memories for me comes only from SA-MP. I stayed here because of these past experience with the wonderful SA-MP GTO.
My reason to leave is not really simple. We had so much beef in the last 15 years with asturel, we have very different opinions on how some things should be, we also talk about these very often.
Earlier this day asturel made a decision with I strongly disagree. I don't want to say anything bad about the server or asturel, I can understand why he made this decision. I want to leave in peace without causing any conflictI wish him a successfull recovery & less bad people here
During all these years we also had a lot of common in opinion. I still agree with him about the player's behaviour, and we did nothing wrong when we started banning people for that. It didn't matter if we gave jail or ban, permanent or period of time punishments, the players never changed their habits.
The server is in this state mostly because of insulters, bugabusers, (now cheaters as well), and chargebackers.
I completely understand asturel how he felt when the only thing came from players was insults & chargebacks. Of course there will be no updates then.
Before I leave:
I want to give some future advise about the cheaters.
You should create topics about every suspicious player, and then paste 5-10 clip there before you ask asturel to ban the player.
Do discuss about everything you see in the clips:- is that kill legit, or not?
- is that hit possible or not? etc.
Be a grown man and say your true opinion about the accused player, get over of your bad feelings towards him. Also to help yourselves out, you should get OBS to record, and use game audio & mute DC and any music source.
Another thing:
I unbanned every serial / ip / account which was insulting only me. This was my last task as an admin, since I'm no longer one. This was the case with TFK as well, when he had to go, we unbanned everyone whose ban was given by him & the reason didn't include asturel.Please note, that this only applies to accounts, serials or ips where only my name was written as an insult, if asturel's name or simply admin was used, thats still banned.
Also if mine name + asturel's name is in the banreason that also stays.The last month with cheaters was also a turning point which dropped me here. I still think that there is no way for any server owner to fight against aimbot & no-recoil users as MTA doesn't really give you the functions and events for that. (not only because they don't want to make these, simply the game doesn't support these). For asturel to maintain a custom client is unimaginable. Not to mention that simply having a custom client doesn't mean anything. These kernel level cheats hide theirselves. Paying a custom anticheat service is which he could use with a custom client is too expensive.
We can make anticheat for teleports, grenade abusing, login screen cheats etc, but there is exactly nothing about aimbot & no-recoil users.Maybe we could make an efficiency+accuracy+hitbox check where if the player has 70%+ of accuracy thats a high chance of aimbot abusing. But then its not so simple to make, because you could just shoot the ground to decrease the numbers. Only calculate while spectating? Thats also not really good, since we then would need to monitor every player 0-24 not to mention that we would need to collect these calculations for hours before making a decision.
I have an experience with GTA & MTA for like 20 years now. I know what is possible & what's not. I do feel that those hits and kills I and some of you get from others nowadays are illegal. I do feel that my recent decisions of banning these players were right. However since these are not crystal clear, 100% pure evidences for cheating, the accused players and their friends came everyday to address their feels about how bad I am, how corrupt I am. I can't make good decisions because my skills are bad, etc. Skills are not relly relevant, but I accept it.
So everyone whose case was not 100% of pure evidence, was not a crystal clear evidence, they got unbanned. (how much players? Like 3-5 only)Those people whose ban evidence is crystal clear, their ban stays.
Whose using the cheat & testing it, etc. via pm/gangchat is a clear evidence.
Also a good video where someone's no-recoil usage is cleraly visible.So again, i wish the best for asturel about the server and about his injury.
I also wish less cheaters and good times to the players till you can play.
Bye.